In the latest Democracy Sausage episode: Finger pointing, federalism and alternative faces, Mark Kenny speaks with federalism scholar Tracy Beck Fenwick and media expert Margaret Simons about how the federation is functioning after a week of finger pointing between the gederal government and states and territories regarding COVID-19 management and the vaccine rollout.

Listen to the full episode here.

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